endorfinslaven skrev:

Continues with this !

My car has until today passed the MOT,,,,
My car has much bigger brakes !
The subframe/suspension parts in the back and the front is as on the 2WD/RWD rallye and rallycross cars except one thing, I dont have 4-link.
No rubber in the brushes just what we over here call uniballs Im not sure if you call em rodballs(USA). Really good difflock Ive tried the cheaper ones, shortened steeriing gear/ratio, bigger turbo intercooler, ported motorhead another camshaft, different cranksjhafts and a tuneable(mappable) fuel ignition system and I run the car with E85 with gives a lot of moore torque and hp compared to gasoline.

So ofcourse its possible to get the car to pass the yearly MOT.
But they look for robust solutions and, not to much increase of power.
I often give the MOT guys tip of what to look for, because theres so many 500-1000hp cars on the roads with standard breaks and chassis. I dont like that..

If you modify your car its your responibility to make it as safe as possibly. 
Reason is you dont want to cause any unneccesary accidents resulting in killing people.
If you kill yourself on a lonely countryside road in midwinter with -25 degrees below its OK, but dont take anyone down with you.
I dont have to say this to you its more pointed towards many of the swedish garage tuners
All motorheads from England that I know have a higher moral, regarding safety than the Swedish motorheads.

Enjoy your stay in Sweden and start living your life to the fullest.
This is a land with many opportunities and a lot of free time...
You dont have to be rich to have fun in this country,,,,

Best luck

alexxe skrev:

u say your engine sits in the back now instead of in the front, if u have done a extremely good work u can try getting your car throug the SFRO.  The SFRO inspect your car so u can classify it as an amatueur build car, and thereby get your car thrugh the swedish SPB.

a alternative .

Thunderbird88 skrev:

Welcome to Sweden!
I must ask, what cars are you talking about? Turbo, Supercharged or N/A? How tuned are they?

The Mustang SVT Cobra my father has is pushing almost 600hp on the rear wheels but it's street legal.
Why?
It's supercharged original so with a swapper supercharger, how can they see that it's not original?
If they ask you "is this original" just look stupid and say "Yeah, I think so".
And if they say "Wow this thing feels quick" just say "Yeah, I think the gearing is swapped".

BUT if you have a Turbo car which in the paper says N/A you're in trouble.
But it's not impossible. If an N/A car in the UK is registered with a turbo then you will get it registered with turbo in Sweden too. Worked with our Ford Bronco with a Paxton Supercharger

Powerman skrev:

If you now live in Sweden and has been allowed to stay here. Why not inspect your car with Swedish plates? Swedish vehicle inspection is on the road to deregulation as well. New participants entering the market. Registration inspection must be well at the moment if you modify the car.

alexxe skrev:

u say your engine sits in the back now instead of in the front, if u have done a extremely good work u can try getting your car throug the SFRO.  The SFRO inspect your car so u can classify it as an amatueur build car, and thereby get your car thrugh the swedish SPB.

a alternative .

twin_cam skrev:

alexxe skrev:

u say your engine sits in the back now instead of in the front, if u have done a extremely good work u can try getting your car throug the SFRO.  The SFRO inspect your car so u can classify it as an amatueur build car, and thereby get your car thrugh the swedish SPB.

a alternative .

Yes, that's a pretty good idea...

Try to register it as "Amatörbyggt Fordon" (Amateur built vehicle). The only requirements on the car then is that it has to be safe to drive (good brakes from a similar weight or heavier vehicle, seculey mounted steering and chassis components), a stock engine and no more then 15 kW/100 kg of weight.

It does not matter if its RHD och LHD either.

it's worth a try if nothing else works.

But since you have moved here, it should be possible to register it as "FLYTTGODS", if it is 100% legal to drive on public roads in England.

Qiute a few people who have moved here from, as an example, the US, have had cars that would be almost impossible to get legal in normal ways registered using that exception.

EDIT: By the way: Welcome to Sweden

RustyNeX skrev:

....don't laugh,   my cars are nissan micras all of them, they come with a factory 1.3 75bhp engine, but one had a 1.6 105bhp engine, the other has a second 1.3 engine in the back of it.

problem is, the plan was to run nitrous on the twin engine car, i cant see that ever being legal, and sure i could build it and get it legal in the uk but in the uk there is nothing on paper that says it has a turbo or nitrous etc, our papers just say the engine size and paint colour. which is why we can fit turbos to are cars without any problems, you dont have to tell anyone except the insurance.

another problem is i van converted one of my cars, that involved removing the back seats and making a false floor. that was registered in the UK as a van, but i was told here in sweden i still need to put the back seats in which seems pretty stupid to me.

twin_cam skrev:

RustyNeX skrev:

....don't laugh,   my cars are nissan micras all of them, they come with a factory 1.3 75bhp engine, but one had a 1.6 105bhp engine, the other has a second 1.3 engine in the back of it.

problem is, the plan was to run nitrous on the twin engine car, i cant see that ever being legal, and sure i could build it and get it legal in the uk but in the uk there is nothing on paper that says it has a turbo or nitrous etc, our papers just say the engine size and paint colour. which is why we can fit turbos to are cars without any problems, you dont have to tell anyone except the insurance.

another problem is i van converted one of my cars, that involved removing the back seats and making a false floor. that was registered in the UK as a van, but i was told here in sweden i still need to put the back seats in which seems pretty stupid to me.

No, nitous would be hard to get thru the MOT

In Sweden we have about the same information on the cars papers, but when regisrtatig a N/A car in sweden to be a turbo, you have to change the engine to one thats alredy equipped with a turbo och SC... The look at the engine certification code,

The most common exaple in Sweden: Volvo 240/740 with the slowest 116 BHP (code: B230F) engine. It will not be possible to register that car with a turbo on THAT engine, but if ju swap the whole enging, including the ECU:s to the stock turbocharged version of the same engine (Code: B230FT) you just have to go thru a quite normal MOT with the only difference that it is a little more expensive. The thing they do is changing the figures in the "Engine Power" field in the papers.

Then you can do as alomst every Volvo Turbo owner in Sweden, tune the engine to double, or triple the original power, and the MOT usually doesn't care as long as the emissions ar on the correct values, and the engine runs as it should

RustyNeX skrev:

shame again nitrous, perfectly legal in the uk as long as its safe.

so that means it is ok to do engine swaps? or only of engines of the same type?

for example my engine has a CG13DE 1.3 75bhp engine, i have swaped these engines for the GA16DE 105bhp 1.6 engine, would that be ok or would it not be ok because that car never had a GA series engine in it?

so you can tune your car with what you have, but you can't add turbos or super chargers you need to have them on the engine already?

its starting to sound not as bad as i thought.

another question, what about cosmetic changes? if the car looks modified with body kits etc is that a problem, one of my cars is a show car which is done up to look pretty, in the UK i would get stopped by the police all the time because the car was obvious, is it the same here in sweden?

twin_cam skrev:

RustyNeX skrev:

shame again nitrous, perfectly legal in the uk as long as its safe.

so that means it is ok to do engine swaps? or only of engines of the same type?

for example my engine has a CG13DE 1.3 75bhp engine, i have swaped these engines for the GA16DE 105bhp 1.6 engine, would that be ok or would it not be ok because that car never had a GA series engine in it?

so you can tune your car with what you have, but you can't add turbos or super chargers you need to have them on the engine already?

its starting to sound not as bad as i thought.

another question, what about cosmetic changes? if the car looks modified with body kits etc is that a problem, one of my cars is a show car which is done up to look pretty, in the UK i would get stopped by the police all the time because the car was obvious, is it the same here in sweden?

I wrote a longer post, byt my internet (damn mobile internet ) disconnected, so when i clicked on post, all dissapered

There are power limitations from either the manufacturer, or from rules...

On Volvo 740 there is a manufacturerlimitation on 286 BHP and 305 NM, så any engine with catalytic converter newer than the car can be fitted, and registrered completley legal

The other rules, thost if there are not manufacturer limitations, i am not som good at, unfortunently...

But styling in this country sounds pretty easier than in england...

You can do almost what you want, as long as the car is traffic-safe, and has no sharp edges that can hurt people that may run in to your car, och out in front of it while you drivning

Of cause ther has to be legal lightning an so on, but the colir of tha glass doesent matter, as long that its red light bakwards and white forwards, and orange/yellow indicators

RustyNeX skrev:

mobile internet is horrible isn't it!

thats interesting about the manufacturers limitations, i will have to see if my car has any, but it is sounding better and better, i think being in sweden is not going to be so hard after all, its just the twin engine beast that i will have trouble with, and if i can get that legal in the UK then that should be fine too!

twin_cam skrev:

RustyNeX skrev:

mobile internet is horrible isn't it!

thats interesting about the manufacturers limitations, i will have to see if my car has any, but it is sounding better and better, i think being in sweden is not going to be so hard after all, its just the twin engine beast that i will have trouble with, and if i can get that legal in the UK then that should be fine too!

Citroën had a twin engine 2CV in the sixties, at least one was registred i sweden But thats was i the sixties and it hade a total of about 50 BHP... Hehe

Look if your car has any limitations... I'm not sure about what is the easyest way, maybe SFRO can answer it, maybe not...

The best way i think is to send an email to te manufacturer, and hope for som luck... They arn't always that helpful

RustyNeX skrev:

hey ya,

thanks for the welcome

when coming to sweden it was almost better in every way, but this car thing is really getting me down, i do love these empty country roads in sweden, but it was the same in England too, we have some incredible drives, i recommend anyone to drive the countryside around glasgow in scotland too, you wont get a better driving experience, long open roads you can see for miles, with twists too loads of fun.

i did have some real fun in the winter this year too, drifting around on the ice was great and the snow tyres really did a great job.

yea i was very shocked at the state of the roads over here, i was heading a little further north and managed to turn my wheel square with a nasty pot hole! and unfortunatly all my cars are as low as it goes, one of them has a brace bar along the bottom which makes it about 8cm from the ground, luckily the car i want to bring over is going to be a rally car, if sweden will let me finish it, so that should help!

that is very interesting about seeing the differences between england and sweden. from my point of view i know so amazing tuners in England who have build some stunning cars, full carbon fibre chassis custom cars etc, because you can build a car from nothing in England. and the Arial atom, which was built not too far from where i lived, is one of the fastest accelerating cars in the world. where as coming to sweden, i see normal cars, pretty much only volvos, and some shocking driving, the number of people who just pull out infront of me on round abouts and junctions, i have had more near crashes in sweden than all my years of driving in the UK. but i am sure its not like that really which is the problem, to understand the car scene in your country you need to be a part of it. which is what i was in England, but in sweden i don't know anyone who is into cars, so it all seems a bit slow... and with modifying being illegal that just makes it worse. i think that is going to drive me mad, i cant leave anything standard.


awesome, what roll cage? weld in or bolt in? and what car? i have had some fun fitting roll cages, it really makes a difference.

Slash skrev:

About people cutting you of, I know an old englishman that said like one of the hardest trafficrules to learn is the swedish rightrule (högerregeln) meaning if you are driving on a road that isnt a main road (huvudled = head road? well I have no idea what the name of these type of roads are in english or if you got something similar like a leftrule or something) the law says you need to let cars coming from the right drive before you, perhaps its similar that you dont know of this rule and belive people cuts you off? this rule is not apply in roundabouts though.